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Census for Patrick and Mary Bargh Byrne Household
  1860 1870 1880
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Index Name Byrne Byrne Byrne
Address 9th Avenue, Manhattan, New York 22nd Ward, 15th District, Manhattan, New York 888 7th Avenue, Manhattan, New York
Head of Household Patrick H., 26, painter, born Ireland Patrick, 35, painter, born Ireland Patrick H. 44, widower, grainer, born in Ireland, father born in Ireland, mother born in Ireland
Wife Mary A., 25, born in New York Mary, 35, born in New York
Daughter Martha, 2, born in New York
Son Thomas, 12, born in New York
Son John W. 6/12, born in New York John, 11, born in New York
Daughter Mary, 8, born in New York Mary, 18, born in New York, father born in Ireland, mother born in Ireland
Son James, 5, born in New York James H., 16, painting, born in New York, father born in Ireland, mother born in Ireland
Son William, 4, born in New York William, 14, born in New York, father born in Ireland, mother born in Ireland
Son Andrew, 1, born in New York Andrew, 11, born in New York, father born in Ireland, mother born in Ireland

In 1880, Patrick H., 44, is a widower and there is a John Byrne, 56, and family living next door. The two families are living at 888 7th Avenue. This address is now a 46-story building built in 1969. It is across from Carnegie Hall, which was built in 1891. It is on the west side of 7th Avenue, just north of 56th Street.

Patrick H. Byrne died in Manhattan on August 26, 1888. He was buried in Calvary Cemetery, Woodside, Queens. He was age 53, a grainer, a widower, born in Ireland. His parents were Patrick and Thomasina Byrne, both born in Ireland. Source: New York, New York City Municipal Deaths, 1795-1949. Based on Y-DNA, it would appear that the Byrnes were from the Newry area in County Down, Northern Ireland (se below).

Mary Ames Byrne died in Manhattan on October 5, 1875. She was buried in Calvary Cemetery, Woodside, Queens. She was age 41 and married. Her father was born in Ireland. Source: New York, New York City Municipal Deaths, 1795-1949.

New York Times, October 7, 1875, page 5:

     BYRNE.--On Tuesday, October 5, 1875, MARY ANE BARGH, the beloved wife of Patrick H. Byrne, aged 46 years, 8 months and 10 days.
     The relatives and friends of the family and those of her brother-in-law, John Byrne, are invited to attend the funeral on Thursday, the 7th inst, at half past one o'clock P. M.

Martha T. Schultze died in Manhattan on November 22, 1886. She was buried in Calvary Cemetery, Woodside, Queens. She was age 28. Her parents were Patrick H. Byrne, born in Ireland, and Mary A. Byrne, born in Manhattan. Source: New York, New York City Municipal Deaths, 1795-1949.

Mary F. Sammon died in Brooklyn on February 4, 1946. She was buried in Calvary Cemetery, Woodside, Queens. She was a widow, age 83. Her parents were Patrick H. Byrne, born in U.S., and Mary Ann Bargh, born in U.S.. Source: New York, New York City Municipal Deaths, 1795-1949.

Andrew Byrne died in Manhattan on March 12, 1931. He was buried in Calvary Cemetery, Woodside, Queens. He was age 62, a wood grainer, married, and lived in The Bronx. His wife's name was Katherine. His parents were Patrick Byrne, born in Ireland, and Mary Bargh, born in U.S. Source: New York, New York City Municipal Deaths, 1795-1949.

Where in Ireland

Records indicate that Patrick Byrne was born Ireland. But, they do not say where in Ireland. Patrick's descendant, Roger Byrne, has Y-DNA matches with four testers named McGivern as well as five named Byrne. Could Byrne be an anglicized form of McGivern?

One Byrne match is Donald Austin Byrne, kit 338826, born in 1934 in Manhattan, N.Y., raised in Flushing, Queens, and attended primary school at St. Nicholas of Tolentine (where Roger was baptized). see: Y-67 Genetic Distance). His oldest known Byrne ancestor is Austin Thomas Byrne, baptized in 1859 in Dublin at St. Mary's Pro-Cathedral (Catholic Archbishop of Dublin).

Roger and Donald share a mutation named FTA14037, which was born in 1750. The two of them, in turn, share a mutation with a McGivern. It is named BY93599 and was born in 1550.

Y63570, 1000 AD
MF25261, 1100 AD
BY75184, 1300 AD FT150880, 1400 AD
BY93599, 1550 AD Unnamed mutation FT150722, 1850 AD Unnamed mutation
FTA14037, 1750 ADUnnamed mutation
7 named Armstrong, Fuller, and Riley Patrick H. Byrne, b. 1835 in Ireland208 Austin Byrne, b. 1859 in Dublin Edward John McGivern, b.1862 in Canada Oliffe Francis Byrne, b. 1794 in Wicklow Francis Byrne, b. 1794 in Wicklow Byrnes Philip Joseph Byrne, b. 1847 in Ireland
kit 208416 kit 338826 kit 987885 kit IN63889 kit IN94723 kit SI12151 kit 1016061

In addition to the six Byrnes above, there is one who has not tested for the mutations but matches otherwise. In addition to the one McGivern above, there are three who have not tasted for the mutations but match otherwise. Both groups have the 18th marker 447=27, which is unique to all who have the Y63570 mutation.

Y67 Y67 Y67 Y37
Francis Burns, b. 1796 in Meath Patrick Montgomery (McGivern), b. 1750 in Northern Ireland Owen McGivern, b. in Ireland Lawrence McGivern, b. 1832 in Northern Ireland
kit 184304 kit B2736 kit ? kit ?

The McGivern surname is found almost exclusively in southern County Down in Northen Ireland. In 1863-64, there were 102 McGivern households in County Down.See: John Grenham's Irish Surnames. See also: Ros Davies' Co. Down Site.

Following is a list of all the 19 civil parishes in County Down in 1863-64 containing the 102 McGivern Households, with the number of Byrne households shown alongside.

Civil ParishMcGivern
Households
Byrne
Households
Aghaderg512
Annaclone15
Clonallan430
Clonduff1
Donaghcloney25
Donaghmore54
Drumballyroney51
Garvaghy4
Grey abbey3
Kilbroney151
Kilkeel8
Knockbreda11
Magheralin17
Moira47
Newry1917
Newtown Ards3
Saul1
Seapatrick46
Tullylish227

The principal McGivern parishes are Newry (19), Anaclone (15), and Kilbrony (15). There are 17 Byrne households in Newry, 1 in Kilbroney, and 30 in Clonallan, which is right between Newry and Kilbroney.

McGivern Map
In 1863-64, there were 102 McGivern households in County Down. The principal parishes from the top are Anaclone (15), Newry (19), and Kilbrony (15).
Byrne Map
In 1863-64, there were 17 Byrne households in Newry, 1 in Kilbroney, and 30 in Clonallan, which is right between Newry and Kilbroney.
Down Map
37 miles from Annaclone to Newry to Rostrevor Kilkeel. Source: Google Maps by car (30 miles walking).

Canadian Tony Burns, co-administrator for the I-M223 project at FTDNA, and Australian Kevin McGivern contributed heavily to this discussion of Roger's Y-DNA.

Kevin points out that Darrell McGivern, a tester at FTDNA with 37 markers, has an uncle Lawrence McGivern who in 1821 lived in Rostrevor (Kilbroney parish), at the foot of Slieve Martin on the coast of Carlingford Lough, near Warrenpoint in County Dowm.

Laurence McGivern, an Irish Paralympic swimmer and World Bronze Medalist (Canada 2013), was born in Rostrevor.

Ryan McGivern, a Northern Irish footballer who plays for NIFL Championship club Newry City, was born in Newry.

Thomas MacGivern was Bishop of Dromone from 1890 to 1900. The cathedral church of SS Patrick and Colman is in Newry. Thomas MacGivern was born in Annaclone in 1829.


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